# Possible DeFi protocol integrations with Lido and their respective incentives **URL:** \ **Category:** Projects\ **Created:** [December 20, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://research.lido.fi/t/possible-defi-protocol-integrations-with-lido-and-their-respective-incentives/50 "2020-12-20T21:40:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cryptodenier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@cryptodenier](https://research.lido.fi/u/cryptodenier)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://research.lido.fi/t/possible-defi-protocol-integrations-with-lido-and-their-respective-incentives/50/1 "2020-12-20T21:40:30Z")
There are many possible integrations that can take place between DeFi protocols. Yet I foresee Lido as being one of the most utilizing (for both respective protocols) and most interesting of integrations. This is not a list of protocols that I want Lido to integrate with (I only share mild examples), rather this lists the different _types_ of protocols that have the potential of such while also reasoning different incentives for these protocols to use stETH over ETH. Since stETH is the _liquid form_ of ETH staked in Phase 0, there are endless possibilities of integrations with other protocols. **Any protocol that uses ETH yield farms, vaults (aggregators), lending/collateral, and LP pools have the potential to integrate with Lido** (just to name a few). This is just a draft. * * * **Farming:** These farming protocols use LP strategies and reward their users (so-called “farmers”) in their native token to attract liquidity. Protocols that allow users to stake their ETH with the protocols native token can allow users to stake their stETH instead. This stETH will accrue rewards from staking in Phase 0, while also simultaneously accruing rewards from the respective staking protocol. (LP Pools functionality will be mentioned below in **LP Pools** ). (Examples include: _Any farming or staking protocol, really…)_ **Vaults/Aggregators:** This ties into many of the other categories. Protocols that use vaults/aggregators that are automated to seek the best yield will seek to use stETH pools rather than ETH pools instead (where there are any) for the reason that they are double rewarding and for the reason that there is no impermanent loss in stETH/ETH pools (mentioned how above in **Staking** and further below in **LP Pools** ). (Examples include: _Yearn…_) **Lending/Collateral:** Protocols that permit ETH to be used as collateral in their protocol, for whatever function, can instead now use stETH to incentivize users to stake more collateral. This is because the stETH is constantly accruing rewards and is constantly increasing in value. This will keep the health factor for the collateral above any risk level to avoid liquidation. Protocols that aim to have more collateral inputted in their protocol would rather use stETH than ETH itself. (Examples include: _Aave, Maker, Compound…)_ **LP Pools:** (Mentioned above in **Farming** is the use case of LP pools to farm a protocols native token, mentioned here are LP pools themselves, and how they can be utilized). Protocols that use LP Pools can benefit from the relationship between stETH and ETH. stETH is bound to ETH at a 1:1 ratio. This allows for a variety of options for extracting revenue: No impermanent loss for liquidity providers, trading fees gained from the pools to liquidity providers or to protocols/aggregators, opportunity for newly created vaults that can use these trading fees without having the impermanent loss risk. (Examples include: _Sushiswap, Uniswap, Curve…_) Not mentioned are possible tranche systems (_BarnBridge, Spice…)_ that may somehow integrate with Lido. * * * It seems to me that having liquidity pools for stETH is the single most important factor tied into this. Regardless of trading fees for liquidity providers, those that want to stake in Ethereum’s Phase 0–while also wanting to own _liquid_ ETH (stETH)–require a pool to be able to “unstake”, in a sense, their Ethereum. This is how both protocols can mutually benefit one another. If you have any other ideas, please mention them below. I repeat, this is just a draft. These are just some ideas that have popped into my head and I am not sure about their functionality (how does a rebasing token like stETH work in a liquidity pool with other tokens). I will most likely create a new post once I am well informed. ---
**Author:** ![JK\_stakefish](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/research.lido.fi/jk_stakefish/32/395_2.png) [@JK\_stakefish](https://research.lido.fi/u/JK_stakefish)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:29am UTC](https://research.lido.fi/t/possible-defi-protocol-integrations-with-lido-and-their-respective-incentives/50/2 "2021-01-07T06:29:31Z")
Agreed. In my mind, all of the existing WETH locked in any DeFi stack can be substituted with stETH. I think you make a good point that deeper liquidity for stETH is the first step in unlocking stETH integrations. ---
**Author:** ![jules-jules](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/research.lido.fi/jules-jules/32/29_2.png) [@jules-jules](https://research.lido.fi/u/jules-jules)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:04am UTC](https://research.lido.fi/t/possible-defi-protocol-integrations-with-lido-and-their-respective-incentives/50/3 "2021-01-07T07:04:31Z")
Great proposal. I think the DAO should make it a priority to vote so that liquidity providers are sufficiently incentivized to keep keep markets liquid. ---
**Author:** ![jules-jules](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/research.lido.fi/jules-jules/32/29_2.png) [@jules-jules](https://research.lido.fi/u/jules-jules)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 8:47am UTC](https://research.lido.fi/t/possible-defi-protocol-integrations-with-lido-and-their-respective-incentives/50/5 "2021-01-08T08:47:37Z")
Just some thoughts re: LDO token economics — I think there are parallels to Curve’s governance token. I would summarize the three main goals of LDO as to: 1. Incentivize stETH liquidity providers across the various DeFi platforms; 2. Increase the share of users involved in the governance of the protocol; and 3. Ensure that stETH returns are among the best in the market. **Some ideas for features that could be implemented to facilitate the above:** **stETH Pools** For providing liquidity, LPs receive LDO as a reward. The majority of LDO farming yield should probably go to stETH itself on a long-term schedule. **Lock-up on Farmed LDO** A percentage of LDO earned could be time-locked and be later distributed to the LPs who earned it from the farm. This would reduce the immediate sell pressure from large LPs. **Time-locking** Similar to CRV, one of the main incentives for LDO could be a time-lock feature to increase rewards on provided liquidity. Vote locking in CRV, for example, enables voting power to participate in the DAO and earn a boost on the liquidity provided, with different lock-up periods ranging from one week to four years. **LDO token burn** A token burn mechanism on farmed LDO could be implemented creating longer term deflationary pressure. **Rewards for governance participation** Additional rewards could be earned by not only locking LDO, but by actively interacting with the governance protocol, e.g, by casting votes, creating LIPs, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Chuck](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/research.lido.fi/chuck/32/32_2.png) [@Chuck](https://research.lido.fi/u/Chuck)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 10:05am UTC](https://research.lido.fi/t/possible-defi-protocol-integrations-with-lido-and-their-respective-incentives/50/6 "2021-01-08T10:05:58Z")
Great ideas！ One more thought: Change the “fee distribution” factor : “treasury” from zero to X%(maybe 20%). This will give a specific expectation of return by holding LDO. ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/lido/original/1X/03cc3318989c0690fecf3008a0a1adc9fd70df14.png) ---
**Author:** ![Viscio67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e19adc/32.png) [@Viscio67](https://research.lido.fi/u/Viscio67)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://research.lido.fi/t/possible-defi-protocol-integrations-with-lido-and-their-respective-incentives/50/7 "2021-02-24T16:52:46Z")
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