Sunsetting of Lido on Polkadot and Kusama

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As of August 1, 2023, the MixBytes team will no longer develop and technically support the Lido on Polkadot and Kusama liquid staking protocols.

While both the Lido DAO and MixBytes remain proud of what we have accomplished and grateful to all the users and partners who trusted our solution, the decision was made because of several challenges, including market conditions, protocol growth, limited capacity, and priority alignment.

We intend to make the sunsetting process as straightforward and seamless as possible for our users and partners who have supported us.

Below is a structured timeline outlining each step of the process and will be open to receiving and answering your questions. The timeline explained here is the preliminary timeline for Lido on Polkadot. Lido on Kusama will proceed 2 weeks ahead of Lido on Polkadot after the first step.

2023-03-15 — New staking deposits no longer accepted into Lido on Polkadot and Kusama protocols.

2023-06-15 — Reward issuance and redemptions halted. Assets remain accessible via UI for protocol if previously unbonded.

2023-06-22 — Unbonding is enforced. Assets automatically unstaked from the relay chain.

2023-07-24 — Funds relocated to parachains, and can only be claimed via UI for protocol.

2023-08-01 — Official termination. An alternative host for the UI will be arranged by the community.

We are seeking 20K USD* per month from Lido DAO to support our technical maintenance efforts for the five months.

We continue to believe in and support Polkadot’s potential as a blockchain network and remain dedicated to pursuing development and contributing to the ecosystem.

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Not possible to be more specific on “market conditions, protocol growth, limited capacity, and priority alignment” ? What market condition? what stat of protocol growth? what limited capacity? what priority alignment?

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I really appreciated being able to stake even though I had less than kusama’s minimum. That was very helpful.

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Both are chains bound to die lol

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hi, soyome.
i understand that it is the MixBytes does not support Lido On Polkadot and Kusama. does it mean that Lido itself will end the staking business on Polkadot and Kusama? i am a little bit confused

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thx for the reply. but how should i treat the DOT and KSM on moonbeam and moonriver chain? should i bridge it back through xc-bridge?

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Hey, @MAD, sure!

As per market conditions and protocol growth — that incudes both overall economic factors that lowered both DeFi growth in general and in DotSama in particular and also the protocol adoption. The other points refer more to distributed attention across Lido protocols that diverted attention away from DotSama ecosystem, which is totally understandable.

In general, it is more about unmet financial expectations for this initiative. You may also find more in this blog post.

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Thank you for your kind words, that means a lot! We hope for more LST initiatives in DotSama.

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Hi, yes, the fact MixBytes stop technically supporting those protocols means it is halted for Lido DAO for now.

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Only Lido on Polkadot and Kusama protocols will be gracefully sunset, and nothing else on Moonbeam or Moonriver is affected, so feel free to utilise your xcDOTs and xcKSMs any other way!

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It is sad to see Mixbytes’ decision to take these necessary measures, but it is justifiable given the rationale presented. As a staunch advocate for Polkadot, I must acknowledge that the utility of LST and staking protocols with respect to decentralization may not be as robust as those found in Ethereum, Polygon, and other comparable platforms.

Furthermore, it is worth noting that the DeFi ecosystem within Polkadot is still relatively underdeveloped, thus limiting the potential applications and benefits of LST to promote increased use cases and stakeholder commitment.

While this is a somber moment, it is my hope that our paths may intertwine once more through collaborative efforts in the future. The professionalism and excellence demonstrated by Mixbytes throughout our partnership have been truly commendable, and I extend my warmest wishes for success in all forthcoming endeavors.

In light of these circumstances, I believe the request made to the DAO is quite reasonable, as the subsequent support for the shutdown and unstaking process will undoubtedly have implications on revenue and put additional strain on available budgets. Thus, it seems prudent to lend our support and understanding to Mixbytes during this challenging period.

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Thank you for the shared above! We are open to future talks.

P.S. Fixes made for better clarity and according to the community feedback.

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Sad to see this :frowning: I understand the rationale, although it does feel a bit like a “heads I win tails you lose” situation; Lido DAO and token holders shoulder the greater share of the cost, while partner development orgs have optionality to cease participation whenever it suits them, and even potentially spin out the work product into a new DAO that does not benefit Lido. Perhaps I am drawing the wrong conclusions from this but it makes me a bit less confident in the current framework of having independent teams develop Lido on X projects.

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Hi community,
If you have Kusama staked, how the heck can you unstake your stksm if the staking tab is no longer there? Am I just stuck with stksm? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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Hi @veeman321,

probably you should use support channels for this as the forum has a different purpose.

But to make it simple:

stKSM tokens are forcefully unstaked. You simply connect your wallet and claim the funds.

Thanks for the trust placed in Lido on Kusama!

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wow, quick responses, and thx. i’ll delete my initial q.

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Upgradeability of Lido on Polkadot and Lido on Kusama contracts were removed today. You can check it by requesting the owner address on the contracts:
0xEbB4Bb1049C5721DbCaD685Ce595a6B242B7e2A0 (ProxyAdmin for Lido on Kusama)
0x6401b31d67236f52da3b8acea2221893c38c3384 (ProxyAdmin for Lido on Polkadot)

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Hello! I staked Dot. How can I now request them through the protocol user interface?

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visit https://polkadot.lido.fi/ and claim your DOT.

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